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		<title>Comment on DNA AND DYNASTIC CHRONOLOGIES by Sorenson, Siberian DNA, and Book of Mormon Directions &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
		<link>http://thefirestillburning.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/dna-and-dynastic-chronologies/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorenson, Siberian DNA, and Book of Mormon Directions &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] previously posted  an argument that many problems in interpreting the Book of Mormon come from carrying over the Biblical [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on BEING PROPHETIC &#8212; SOMEDAY by Crewing Lifeboats Now &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
		<link>http://thefirestillburning.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/being-prophetic-someday/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crewing Lifeboats Now &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] example, I wrote  here two years ago about how rapidly the options were closing on equitable sharing of economic [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on DNA AND DYNASTIC CHRONOLOGIES by Earthquakes, Hurricanes, and Cave Art &#8212; Oh My! &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Earthquakes, Hurricanes, and Cave Art &#8212; Oh My! &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have written  elsewhere of how it makes sense for those who believe in the historicity of the Book of Mormon to accept its [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on BEING PROPHETIC &#8212; SOMEDAY by Church Reboots and Science Fiction &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Church Reboots and Science Fiction &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] have become accustomed to such a dichotomy in the Community of Christ. We are perfectly happy to  be prophetic &#8212; someday &#8212; by proclaiming that we must act, but refuse to admit we do not know what to do, lest resources be [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have become accustomed to such a dichotomy in the Community of Christ. We are perfectly happy to  be prophetic &#8212; someday &#8212; by proclaiming that we must act, but refuse to admit we do not know what to do, lest resources be [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on MORE ON THE BRASS BALL by Scientific Mood Swings &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scientific Mood Swings &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I noted in a report on ancient technology  recovered in a shipwreck, the Greeks developed sophisticated navigational devices and found their most important use to be [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on DNA AND DYNASTIC CHRONOLOGIES by The Spirit of The Earth &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
		<link>http://thefirestillburning.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/dna-and-dynastic-chronologies/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Spirit of The Earth &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The goal of such an approach is not to prove, as a scriptural literalist might, that the scripture is “true just like they said”, but, rather, it is to look for meanings that neither ancient nor metaphorical approaches might recognize. Mormon scripture is particularly fruitful to study in this way, I think, because science has changed dramatically enough since the 19th Century for scientific errors to be glaring, but the 19th Century American mind and language have not changed so much that the world view in which the scriptures are written has become totally unrecognizable. I’ve previously posted an example  here and another  here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The goal of such an approach is not to prove, as a scriptural literalist might, that the scripture is “true just like they said”, but, rather, it is to look for meanings that neither ancient nor metaphorical approaches might recognize. Mormon scripture is particularly fruitful to study in this way, I think, because science has changed dramatically enough since the 19th Century for scientific errors to be glaring, but the 19th Century American mind and language have not changed so much that the world view in which the scriptures are written has become totally unrecognizable. I’ve previously posted an example  here and another  here. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on YOU&#8217;VE READ THIS POST BEFORE! by The Spirit of The Earth &#124; Wheat and Tares</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Spirit of The Earth &#124; Wheat and Tares]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the scriptures are written has become totally unrecognizable. I’ve previously posted an example  here and another  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on PYRAMIDS-R-US by FireTag</title>
		<link>http://thefirestillburning.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/pyramids-r-us/#comment-401</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back, Margie. Glad to see from reading your blog that you&#039;re moving forward strongly.

I think I&#039;m following your comment, but I&#039;m not sure I see the distinction between the super-smart and the super-rich that you do. I&#039;m not sure that things would be improved by replacing dumb crooks with smart crooks, and I see very little correlation over a generation or so between intelligence and morality. Smart immoral people can always make money. Smart moral people are a rare jewel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, Margie. Glad to see from reading your blog that you&#8217;re moving forward strongly.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m following your comment, but I&#8217;m not sure I see the distinction between the super-smart and the super-rich that you do. I&#8217;m not sure that things would be improved by replacing dumb crooks with smart crooks, and I see very little correlation over a generation or so between intelligence and morality. Smart immoral people can always make money. Smart moral people are a rare jewel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PYRAMIDS-R-US by Margie Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Margie Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really would like the ruling class to be made up of the super intelligent and not the super rich, as it is now. Unfortunately many, many ordinary and sometimes uneducated citizens do not study issues or even speak to them. They just follow the pundits, thinking they are smart enough to do their thinking for them.

Wrong!

They are smart enough to twist the issues to their own advantage. 

I wish, here in OZ, that we could trust some of those in leadership to do the right thing for all citizens...to look after the best interests of the poor and the outcast...instead of their own interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really would like the ruling class to be made up of the super intelligent and not the super rich, as it is now. Unfortunately many, many ordinary and sometimes uneducated citizens do not study issues or even speak to them. They just follow the pundits, thinking they are smart enough to do their thinking for them.</p>
<p>Wrong!</p>
<p>They are smart enough to twist the issues to their own advantage. </p>
<p>I wish, here in OZ, that we could trust some of those in leadership to do the right thing for all citizens&#8230;to look after the best interests of the poor and the outcast&#8230;instead of their own interests.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PYRAMIDS-R-US by FireTag</title>
		<link>http://thefirestillburning.wordpress.com/2010/08/28/pyramids-r-us/#comment-399</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTC:

I largely agree with your points here as they apply to the upper reaches of the ruling class, although I would place more emphasis on the notion of the money  political power transaction being very much a two-way street.

However, the super-rich/super-politically connected can&#039;t make too many commoners part of the elite; otherwise, they wouldn&#039;t be &quot;common&quot; or elite. As long as people don&#039;t love others as much as themselves, which all of us struggle with even in our most loving relationships, the super rich get super richer, and only some of them actually will work very hard to surrender their own elitism to pull others upward.

The solution for them, then, in a variety of situatiohns, is to keep inventing rungs on the ladder between the commoners and the actual ruling powers. I think this is where intellectualism comes in as an &quot;opiate of the masses&quot;, to borrow a term from the left.

The August 2010 unemployment rate for people with 4 year degrees was 4.6%, so there has been no recessiohn among the college educated (although they&#039;ve locked themselves into a long term wealth hit in investments and housing values). As you note, access to college is strongly influenced by things other than individual merit.

My home county is a test case of how this works, and the risks people are willing to take to get into the edges of the ruling class. I live in one of the five richest counties in the US. About 1-2% of the homes in my neighborhood are going into foreclosure per month because people bought housing they could not afford in order to get their children into the County school system, which is also one of the most highly ranked in the nation. I believe I read before the primaries for school board a few weeks ago that Federal grants and subsidies had now become the largest source of support for the school system -- even more than comes from what should be a huge property and sales tax base.

Perfect example, IMO, of how the ruling class regulates entry to its ranks through political power. We have to be among the least needy counties in the country for Federal assistance to elementary and secondary education, but our resident elites would not tolerate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTC:</p>
<p>I largely agree with your points here as they apply to the upper reaches of the ruling class, although I would place more emphasis on the notion of the money  political power transaction being very much a two-way street.</p>
<p>However, the super-rich/super-politically connected can&#8217;t make too many commoners part of the elite; otherwise, they wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;common&#8221; or elite. As long as people don&#8217;t love others as much as themselves, which all of us struggle with even in our most loving relationships, the super rich get super richer, and only some of them actually will work very hard to surrender their own elitism to pull others upward.</p>
<p>The solution for them, then, in a variety of situatiohns, is to keep inventing rungs on the ladder between the commoners and the actual ruling powers. I think this is where intellectualism comes in as an &#8220;opiate of the masses&#8221;, to borrow a term from the left.</p>
<p>The August 2010 unemployment rate for people with 4 year degrees was 4.6%, so there has been no recessiohn among the college educated (although they&#8217;ve locked themselves into a long term wealth hit in investments and housing values). As you note, access to college is strongly influenced by things other than individual merit.</p>
<p>My home county is a test case of how this works, and the risks people are willing to take to get into the edges of the ruling class. I live in one of the five richest counties in the US. About 1-2% of the homes in my neighborhood are going into foreclosure per month because people bought housing they could not afford in order to get their children into the County school system, which is also one of the most highly ranked in the nation. I believe I read before the primaries for school board a few weeks ago that Federal grants and subsidies had now become the largest source of support for the school system &#8212; even more than comes from what should be a huge property and sales tax base.</p>
<p>Perfect example, IMO, of how the ruling class regulates entry to its ranks through political power. We have to be among the least needy counties in the country for Federal assistance to elementary and secondary education, but our resident elites would not tolerate it.</p>
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