A physicist with a musician wife and a daughter who got the best of both of us. A 3rd generation RLDS member who is affiliated with the Community of Christ but perfers to reserve the latter term for something bigger than a religion. A writer of occasional scientific and religious papers and many, many, many reports, plans, forecasts, speeches, and proposals destined to be seen only by government bureaucrats and their political supervisors.


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  • […] crazy science knowledge that’s way over my head, one of the motifs I sense from the commenter FireTag’s comments is this…lamentation…an urgency…he is a member of the Community […]

  • 2. Lisa  |  December 7, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Did you once do research at CERN in Switzerland? Did you once attend the Rose Lake Congregation in Michigan? If so, I may have met you a long time ago.

  • 3. FireTag  |  December 7, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    We may have known each other, because I grew up in your mission center in what is now the Waterford and Brighton congregations. I never did any research farther east than Johns Hopkins University in suburban DC, however, so I could be somoone else entirely. 😀

    Hope you enjoy the site.

  • 4. Lisa  |  December 8, 2009 at 1:27 AM

    The man I knew was a nuclear physicist who did some work at CERN. Pleased to make your acquaintance though, and I am looking forward to reading more of your site. Lisa.

  • 5. mark gibson  |  March 31, 2010 at 4:15 PM

    thanks for responding to my comments. most rlds members will not discuss religion with me at all, including two older brothers who are still active. our mother used to say that “mormons won’t talk to rlds because they’re afraid of the truth”; but in my case the opposite prevails. as this is my first attempt at sharing my views, I have lots of questions and hope I will not overwhelm any one person so feel free to forward any of my comments along to others and please indicate any particular subjects you would like my opinion on. By the way, I have a degree in music ed. (voice) and was a featured soloist at the 1982 world conference when they used to have recitals in the lower auditorium following the evening service. Also I was part of “The Escatawpa Men’s Quintet” who performed at the 1990 world conference. Singers are kindred spirits.

  • 6. FireTag  |  March 31, 2010 at 5:14 PM


    As you’ve read above, and probably in the “ABOUT: The Fire Still Burning” page as well, the purpose of this blog is intended to focus on the relationship between science and the Restoration movement, and so I try to stay away from defending my own faith here and look for commonalities between the various offshoots of that movement.

    As you’ll no doubt notice from my writings here or on Mormon Matters, or in comments on places like Mormon Heretic or Saints’ Herald (linked on my home page menu), my own views can be “eclectic” to say the least. But if there is a common element to those beliefs, it is that each of us urgently need to get to the places we are individually called to be by God.

    I AM generally glad that you seem to have found yours. Mine appears increasingly to be the borderlands between the Mormon “left” and the RLDS “right”.

    So thanks for visiting me by the wayside, and good luck in finding ways of sharing your personal testimony.

  • 7. thailandandi  |  May 15, 2010 at 12:02 AM

    Your url link from your screen name to your blog site on Mormon Matters is not quite right. Hate to see people give up and not learn more about you.
    Appreciate your comments, Brett

    • 8. FireTag  |  May 15, 2010 at 12:39 AM

      Thanks, Brett. Sometime on the afternoon of April 21, probably while John was working on the MM site redesign, something glitched, and I had to sign in my website again on MM. Looks like I typed a “,” instead of a “.”, and my vision wasn’t good enough to notice the error. I haven’t figured out what I have to do to relink old comments correctly, but the pre-April 21 links and the new ones from tonight on seem to be functioning.

      I really do think your “John and Cary” posts at MM are of Niblet quality. Thanks for taking the time to alert me to the problem.

  • 9. Dave  |  May 31, 2010 at 1:49 AM


    I met you on your guest post for Mormon Matters and am interested in carrying on the conversation.


  • 10. Ed Goble  |  September 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM

    Firetag, I’m Ed Goble (SkepticTheist) that messaged you on Mormon Matters about your recent post.

    My book is about the Book of Abraham and the Governing Worlds and the Kirtland Egyptian Papers

    But also has some sections about my thoughts about how God intervenes, or how his hand is in all things. It deals with issues that are way out there such as deja vu, synchronicity, serendipity, and so on that are rejected by science, but which I personally experience all the time. So this interconnectedness of things being a duality where there are multiple descriptions for the same reality as you describe it is intimately tied with what I’m writing about. So as you said you may possibly have more material, if you do have more, I would greatly appreciate a heads up about where to find it.

    My email address is [EDITED FOR COMMENTER’S PRIVACY].
    Thank you.

    • 11. FireTag  |  September 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM


      The Community of Christ never canonized the Book of Abraham, so I’ve only the vaguest notion of how all of these notions might play into your project. I’ll certainly be interested in reading how you put it all together.

      The effects you describe are not things I’ve thought about much, though there have certainly been events in my life that would have had very different consequences had they occurred a moment earlier or later.

      Givens has a chapter in his book “By the Hand of Mormon” on the concept of “dialogic revelation” in which he discusses the notion of how vlosely God is involved in daily communication with mankind in Mormon theology. That chapter may be of help to you, or you may be going in an entirely different direction.


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